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    Citação Post Original de Morais-GT Ver Post
    Uma melhoria de 40% no IPC?

    Cheira-me que não vai ser suficiente
    vamos a ver como bom os seus 12cores e se trabalha todo bem e claro preço

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    Citação Post Original de jotinha17 Ver Post
    Mas a AMD já anda com am3 à 5 anos no mínimo, já está mais que aproveitado, precisavam um algo novo para dar o salto e eu espero que assim seja, alem que novo socket nada quer dizer.
    se a memoria nao me falha e o google tambem, amd am3 foi em 2009 e am3+ em 2011.
    por isso ja la vão 7anos
    A amd o ultimo socket foi a fm2+ que estava a trabalhar naquilo com força para lutar pelos pc de baixo custo(APU).
    Última edição de DHunt3r : 02-06-16 às 11:43

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    AMD Zen Processor “Naples” with 32 Cores / 64 Threads Enters Prototyping Phase – Spotted On Zauba Shipping Database

    AMD has achieved a milestone in the production of its upcoming Zen architecture. We have been talking about the upcoming x86 Summit Ridge platform for quite some time now, but today we have a pseudo-official confirmation (paperwork filed by AMD on their shipping manifests) of the roll-out of the enterprise class 32-Core Zen chip. Naples is a big city in southern Italy, sits on the Bay of Naples near Mt. Vesuvius. It is also the codename for the upcoming Opteron platform that will support the 32 core chip.

    AMD’s Naples processor enters prototyping phase

    Naples has been spotted on Zauba’s reliable shipping database. The Summit Ridge platform is AMD’s mainstream platform with Zen architecture and 8 Core dies. Naples on the other hand is the codename of the server platform; the very same platform which will be rocking Zen in 32 core flavors. This is not to be confused with the Zeppelin platform which will include a 32 Zen Core/Vega based APU as well. The 32 Zen cores are tied together using AMD’s very own Coherent Fabric. The homegrown interconnect will support data rates of upto 100GB/s which is alot faster than what the PCIe interface sustains (around 15GB/s). Not only that but latency has been reduced from 500ns to an unknown but allegedly smaller number.
    Thanks to AMD’s lego-like build philosophy even Naples will actually be fabricated in an 8-core base design, with 16 and 32 core chips being produced in an MCM (Multi Chip Module) format. Up till now however, we had seen no real evidence (apart from the usual documentation) that such a monster processor was actually on the charts in the near future. The shipping entry is marked 20th June 2016 and lists the Naples Test Board. It is marked FOC which I assume stands for ‘Full Operational Capability’ meaning AMD has achieved a significant milestone in its Zen roadmap. Just a few days ago, the company has also celebrated their Vega 10 roll out, and this news fits in nicely with that as well.
    The shipping entry can be found over here.
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    Naples will be fabricated on the 14nm FinFET process of GlobalFoundries and will have 8 memory channels as well as up to 128 lanes of PCI-E 3.0. It will support up to 32 SATA or NVME drives. The socket in question is the SP3 LGA socket and the TDP of the professor will be in the 35W – 180 W range (depending on the exact variant and class). According to Fudzilla, Naples will come in 4 different variants: 2 cores, 4 cores, 16 cores and 32 cores with the 8 core variant presumably reserved for the Summit Ridge platform. This also coincides with what we already know: that Summit Ridge would be launching with only 8-Core flavors.
    These processors are going to be pit against Intel’s offerings in the x86 sector and depending on how they are priced could find quite a market share for themselves. So far Intel has reigned supreme in this department because of the fact that the last AMD x86 architecture (the Bulldozer saga) was quite a few years outdated at best and a train wreck at worst. Zen aims to change all that. Since it will be employing SMT (Simultaneous Multi Threading) you are actually looking at a total of 64 Threads! that’s quite a huge number and in absolute terms more than Intel’s offerings.
    Of course, as any CPU enthusiast would tell you, the core count doesn’t mean anything (hint: Bulldozer), what really matters is the IPC performance the Zen based Naples platform delivers compared to its Intel counterparts. We don’t think AMD will be able to beat Intel clock for clock, core for core, but if the processor itself is in a similar price/performance/wattage range then all bets are off when it comes to market share. Intel’s offerings might be better, but it currently charges quite a premium for them. With Naples processors on the stage and offering competitive prices, the market segment could change very quickly. It goes without saying that for AMD as a company, everything depends on how the Zen micro architecture performs.
    AMD 32 Core 'Naples' Opteron Processor Specifications

    Product Family Intel Xeon E5-2600/4600 V4 AMD Opteron "Zen"
    Family Branding Broadwell-EP Naples
    Process Node 14nm FinFET 14nm FinFET
    Xeon/Opteron Platform Intel Grantley AMD Opteron
    PCH C610 Series TBC
    Socket Socket R3 SP3 LGA
    Interconnect N/A 100 GB/s AMD Coherent Fabric
    Max Core Count 22 32 MCM Package
    Max Thread Count 44 64
    Max L3 Cache 55 MB 64 MB
    Max PCI-Express Lanes 40 PCI-E Gen3 128 PCI-E Gen3
    DDR4 Memory Support 4-Channel DDR4 8-Channel DDR4
    TDP Range 55-145W 35-180W
    Launch Expected Q1 2016 TBC


    http://www.portugal-tech.pt/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=566&dateline=1384876765

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    AMD levanta o véu dos Zen (c/ comparação vs Broadwell-E):

    AMD Zen Architecture and Performance Preview

    As I walked away from the St. Regis in downtown San Francisco tonight, I found myself wandering through the streets towards my hotel with something unique in tow. It was a smile. I was smiling, thinking about what AMD had just demonstrated and showed at its latest Zen processor reveal. The importance of this product launch can literally not be overstated for a company struggling to find a foothold to hang on to in a market that it once had a definitive lead. It’s been many years since I left a conference call, or a meeting, or a press conference feeling genuinely hopefully and enthusiastic about what AMD has shown me. Tonight I had that.

    AMD’s CEO Lisa Su, and CTO Mark Papermaster, took stage down the street from the Intel Developer Forum to roll out a handful of new architectural details about the Zen architecture while also showing the first performance results comparing it to competing parts from Intel. The crowd in attendance, a mix of media and analysts, were impressed. The feeling was palpable in the room.
    ...
    resto: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-Zen-Architecture-and-Performance-Preview





    Parece que se começa a ver uma luz ao fundo do túnel.

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    Estou que nem Tomé, só vou crer vendo.

    Enviado de meu XT1572 usando Tapatalk
    Dell G15

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    Citação Post Original de MAXLD Ver Post
    AMD levanta o véu dos Zen (c/ comparação vs Broadwell-E):








    Parece que se começa a ver uma luz ao fundo do túnel.
    Boas!

    Guess... Im going AMD with ZEN!

    Cumprimentos,

    LPC
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    New AMD Engineering Sample Zen Processors get higher Clocks


    AMDs upcoming ZEN series processors are absolutely dominating the processor news-front this year. The hype is real. New information surfaced about updated engineering sample. The processor that is supposed to run IPC perf as fast as Intels Broadwell-E shows higher clocks.
    User AMD Polaris reported that new information new SKUs that have just hit the post-boxes of the mainboard manufacturers. Both processors spotted are A0 revisions and Engineering Samples.

    The first one is an 8-core design with AMD's HT implementation and it's got a 3150 MHz base clock, it's all-core turbo is 3300 MHz and the max turbo for 1 core is 3600 Mhz. Yes, here are some improvements regarding the previous 8-core SKU under the same TDP envelope.

    The second SKU is a 4-core one with AMD's HT. It's got a 65W TDP and the base clock is still 2900 MHz. All-core turbo is 3100 MHz, max turbo is 3400 MHz. I don't know if it's only an SKU for testing mainboards or something is not okay with the clock-wattage correlation. I mean on higher clocks the 4-core SKU steps into the 95W TDP envelope, AMD can't keep the wattage low. Maybe GloFo's 14nm process needs some maturing.

    Retail AM4 mainboards are under production. The whole platform will be ready to have a paper-launch at the end of the year with a real availability in February of 2017. Performance wise the Zen uarch will be around Haswell and Broadwell (except for FMA), it seems it won't catch Skylake clock for clock. It's not a big deal, but if the clocks can't go higher until the start it won't fulfill the expectations.
    And we all know that expectations in this case are very high.
    Este Zen está a ficar cada vez melhor.
    Espero bem que que a AMD consiga finalmente fazer alguma concorrência à Intel.
    Última edição de Winjer : 25-10-16 às 12:42
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    Citação Post Original de Winjer Ver Post
    New AMD Engineering Sample Zen Processors get higher Clocks




    Este Zen está a ficar cada vez melhor.
    Espero bem que que a AMD consiga finalmente fazer alguma concorrência à Intel.
    Boas!
    My body is READY!

    Board AM4 + DDR4 + ZEN + Underdog Powa!!!

    Cumprimentos,

    LPC
    My Specs: .....
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    GPU: ASUS TUF
    AMD RADEON RX 7900 XTX - 24 GB :-: Monitor: BenQ EW3270U 4K HDR


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    Olha que se estiver perto do Broadwell-E, como mostraram no vídeo da AMD, é compra certa para mim.
    Vai ser porreiro voltar a comprar AMD.
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    AMD's next-gen APU has Zen CPU cores, Vega GPU, and HBM2


    AMD has an exciting year ahead of itself in both the CPU and GPU divisions, with their next-gen Vega GPU architecture set to be unveiled soon, and their upcoming Raven Ridge APU that has some surprising tech inside of it. amds-next-gen-apu-zen-cpu-cores-vega-gpu-hbm2_01 According to the latest report from Bitsandchips.it, AMD is working on a few Raven Ridge APUs - with the higher-end model featuring a 1024-core Vega GPU with HBM2, 16 CUs, DDR4 support, with Zen CPU cores (4 x CPU cores, 4 x - and it all arrives in TDPs of between 35-95W. The lower-end version loses the HBM2 technology and kicks the Vega GPU from 16CUs on the high-end model, to 12 CUs on the lower-end model. The 170mm² part will have a TDP of 4-35W, with both versions of the Raven Ridge APUs being made on the 14nm FinFET process. Surpassing Xbox One/PS4 Level Graphics/Performance Let's face it, the rendering power of the PS4 isn't that great - but for mainstream gamers, it's enough. What is enough, though? 1080p 30FPS is about the norm with consoles these days, at around Medium preset graphics. The new HBM2 tech inside of the Raven Ridge APUs will be interesting, as I'm sure AMD will show game developers how to better utilize the much-faster memory technology for added performance inside of the lower APU power envelope. AMD recently made it into Apple's latest MacBook Pro with its Radeon Pro 400 series graphics, which hits 35W and is based on the Polaris 11 GPU with 1024 stream processors and 2 TFLOPs of performance. AMD's next-gen APU is a CPU/GPU in one, versus the Polaris-based Radeon Pro 400 series GPU inside of the new MacBook Pro. The new APU from AMD mixes the upcoming next-gen Zen CPU architecture with Radeon Technologies Groups' next-gen Vega GPU architecture into a single, low-powered, monster APU. This means we can expect much better performance from the Zen and Vega-powered Raven Ridge APU, as the respective CPU and GPU architectures are expected to be much better than what's available right now. Prepare to be excited: AMD is definitely in a position of power going into 2017, as it has forged the end of 2016 well with a successful launch of their Polaris-based Radeon RX 400 series graphics cards. But 2017 is looking even better with their next-gen Zen and Vega architectures, and the thought of AMD once again being in a position of having both a great CPU and GPU is really quite exciting. Intel can't quite get a grip on the GPU side of things, and NVIDIA isn't on the PC side of CPU dominance (while it has CPU cores inside of its Tegra SoCs, they're mostly found in tablets - but NVIDIA has just hit the Nintendo Switch console). This gives AMD a big chance to nail 2017 to the wall with CPU, APU, and GPU launches.

    Este novo APU da AMD parece ser uma melhoria bem grande.
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    Boas!

    Zen cores + Vegas Gpu = Greatness...

    Isso vai ser muito bom para pc´s de baixo custo e claro as consolas!

    Se os ganhos forem bons poderá ser um bom indicador para os cpu´s e Gpu´s para o pessoal que quer firepower da AMD.

    Cumprimentos,

    LPC
    My Specs: .....
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    GPU: ASUS TUF
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    Vejam bem o que está ali quase to topo da tabela.

    http://blenchmark.com/cpu-benchmarks
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    Citação Post Original de Winjer Ver Post
    Vejam bem o que está ali quase to topo da tabela.

    http://blenchmark.com/cpu-benchmarks
    Boas!
    Parece-me ser um chip ZEN para servidores possivelmente...

    Cumprimentos,

    LPC
    My Specs: .....
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D :-: Board: MSI B550M BAZOOKA :-: RAM: 64 GB DDR4 Kingston Fury Renegade 3600 Mhz CL16 :-: Storage: Kingston NV2 NVMe 2 TB + Kingston NV2 NVMe 1 TB
    CPU Cooling Solution: ThermalRight Frost Commander 140 Black + ThermalRight TL-C12B-S 12CM PWM + ThermalRight TL-C14C-S 14CM PWM :-: PSU: Corsair HX 1200 WATTS
    Case: NZXT H6 FLOW :-: Internal Cooling: 4x ThermalRight TL-C12B-S 12CM PWM + 4x ThermalRight TL-C14C-S 14CM PWM
    GPU: ASUS TUF
    AMD RADEON RX 7900 XTX - 24 GB :-: Monitor: BenQ EW3270U 4K HDR


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    Ena ena. Uma feliz aparição por parte dos "Reds"
    Ideias sem Nexo e Provas do Tráfico de Hardware
    "que personifica o destino, equilíbrio e vingança divina." Dejá vú. Que cena!

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    Citação Post Original de LPC Ver Post
    Boas!
    Parece-me ser um chip ZEN para servidores possivelmente...

    Cumprimentos,

    LPC
    A parte interessante é que se está a bater com os de topo da Intel.
    Ryzen R5 3700X / Noctua NH-D15 / B550 AORUS ELITE V2 / Cooler Master H500 Mesh / 16Gb DDR4 @ 3800mhz CL16 / Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super / Seasonic Focus GX 750W / Sabrent Q Rocket 2 TB / Crucial MX300 500Gb + Samsung 250Evo 500Gb / Edifier R1700BT


 

 
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