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    AMD's Next Gen Products Taped Out, Possibly Delayed


    At AMD’s Technology Investors Conference, Devinder Kumar, AMD’s Chief Financial Officer discussed the upcoming AMD upcoming products, which are now being taped out.
    The Move To FinFET

    According to Kumar, in the last few months, AMD has been taping out products on a FinFET fab. AMD expects to have volume production of these new chips in 2016. Kumar did not specify exactly what size the transistors would be in these products, but he said AMD will skip past 20 nm transistors completely. Because AMD currently uses GlobalFoundries for all CPU production and pays TSMC to produce its GPU cores, it is likely that these new products will use either TSMC’s 16 nm FinFET or GlobalFoundries 14 nm FinFET fabs.
    “We haven’t given the specifics, but you know they taped out in the last few months, and typically what happens on the product, depending on when you tape it out, it can be 12 to 14 months from the time you tape out the products to when you start shipping the products, but we haven’t been specific about, you know, exact timeframe,” said Kumar.
    Kumar did not specify if the products being taped out were CPUs or GPUs, both of which are expected to arrive in 2016 and use FinFET transistor technology. It is possible that Kumar was talking about the Arctic Islands GPUs instead, or AMD could be currently taping out and testing both products.
    Zen Processors

    Although the move to 16/14 nm FinFET transistor technology is a promising sign for AMD’s upcoming Zen processors, it appears that these CPUs will come later than expected. AMD’s last major update to its desktop CPU offerings came in January 2014, when the Kaveri architecture was released, and the enthusiast desktop FX series has not seen an update since October 2012.
    At launch, these processors were already facing an uphill battle, as Intel’s competing products were both faster and more energy efficient, and this performance gap has only increased over time with new product releases. As such, many users hoping to see AMD become more competitive expected to see products based on the Zen architecture in Q1 2015.
    Arctic Islands

    Similarly, AMD’s GPUs have faced tough competition in recent years from Nvidia’s Maxwell GPUs. AMD has managed to consistently release increasingly faster GPUs based on its GCN architecture by cramming more shaders into new graphics cards and introducing HBM, but Nvidia’s GTX 980 Ti still holds its position as the fastest graphics card on the market, and with significantly lower power consumption. Although the move to FinFET transistors only may not be enough to take the performance crown from Nvidia, the reduced power consumption paired with the new Arctic Islands architecture might be able to.
    How Long Will We Wait?

    However, if Kumar’s aforementioned 12-14 month timeline holds true, this puts the release of both AMD’s Zen CPUs and the Arctic Islands GPUs back to the second half of 2016 at earliest, and they may arrive as late as Q1 2017.
    Update, 12/14/15, 9:00am PT: Corrected AMD's next gen architecture codename.
    Noticia:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd...out,30751.html


    A ser verdade, paerece-me mais prejudicial para a AMD o adiamento dos GPUs do que os CPUs, nos GPUS é onde está a verdadeira guerra da AMD e a ser os GPUs que tenham sido adiados, provavelmente é a repetição do filme que temos vindo a assistir à mais de um ano e se a nVidia cumprir os prazos, muito provavelmente a AMD ainda verá mais a sua quota de mercado baixar mais.
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    Rumor: AMD Greenland GPU Coming Next Summer On 14nm – To Enter Mass Production In Q2 2016


    AMD’s Radeon 400 series flagship GPU “Greenland” is reportedly debuting next summer and is set to enter mass production in Q2 2015 on the Samsung/Globalfounries 14nm LPP process. According to this latest rumor, AMD’s graphics flagship will enter mass production specifically at the end of the second quarter of next year around June, in time for its introduction at the end of the summer and around the back to school shopping season.

    According to the extensive collection of leaks and information that have come out to date about Greenland, we know that this GPU is one of AMD’s upcoming next generation family of Arctic Islands graphics processing units which also include Baffin/Ellesmere.
    It’s a good time to remind everyone to take this rumor with the usual grain of salt but it’s also worth mentioning that we had published an exclusive report last month confirming that AMD is planning to introduce its next generation Arctic Islands lineup in the summer of next year. And while we cannot validate today’s rumor coming from the far east, we should point out that it is very much aligned with our previous report.
    The 3 Defining Features Of AMD’s Radeon 400 Series Flagship Graphics Card

    AMD’s next generation “Arctic Islands” family of Radeon 400 series will represent the very first truly next generation of GPUs from AMD since the HD 7000 series which launched back in January of 2012. Primarily because it’s going to be the very first line-up that’s based on the faster, more power efficient and vastly denser 14nm/16nm FinFET technology nodes rather than the aging planar 28nm manufacturing process.
    AMD officially confirmed back in May of this year that its 2016 lineup of GPUs – which includes Greenland as well as Baffin / Ellesemere – will feature three major improvements over the current R 300 series and Fury series. These include second generation HBM, a next generation GCN architecture as well as a more advanced 14/16nm FinFET process. The three of which mean that for the first time since 2012 we’re going to have a comprehensive product lineup that’s generationally ahead in a big way on both the performance and power efficiency fronts than what we have today with the 28nm flock of 300 series and Fury series graphics cards.
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    Greenland To Feature Globalfoundries / Samsung 14nm LPP Process

    AMD’s CTO Mark Papermaster confirmed in November that the company will leverage Globalfoundries’ 14LLP process for its next generation GPUs but did not go into detail as to which specific products will be made at GloFo versus TSMC, another confirmed partner of AMD’s on the 16FF node. However, as mentioned earlier Greenland will reportedly be made using the Samsung/Globalfoundries 14LPP process according to the report we’re covering today as well as all the whispers we’ve personally been hearing over the past little while.
    More Memory, More Bandwidth & A Lot More Transistors

    At 1 Terabyte/s of memory bandwidth HBM 2.0 offers double the bandwidth of HBM 1.0 found in the R9 Fury X which features a 4096bit memory interface, 4GB of VRAM and a total of 512GB/s of bandwidth.
    Greenland“ which has been numerously purported as the flagship GPU in the Arctic Islands family is set to be AMD’s most powerful and most advanced graphics chip to date. Rumored to feature up to 18 billion transistors and up to 32GB of second generation HBM – 16GB on the consumer variant and 32GB on the FirePro variant – with 1TB/s of memory bandwidth. Making it the largest ever graphics engine conceived by the company. At approximately twice the transistor count, double the memory bandwidth and four times the memory capacity of AMD’s current flagship the Fury X, Greenland is bound to the company’s first single GPU solution to bring 4K gaming to the masses.










    The Arctic Islands graphics architecture will power everything from next generation mobile and desktop GPUs to APUs and semi-custom chips. There’s also strong evidence to suggest that Nindendo’s next generation gaming device “Nintendo NX” – which is coming next year – will be powered by an AMD semi-custom SOC. Making it a very likely candidate to feature AMD’s “Arctic Islands” GCN graphics architecture.
    WCCFTech Year Process Flagship GPU Product Transistors In Billions Memory Bandwidth
    Southern Islands 2012 28nm Tahiti HD 7970 4.3 3GB GDDR5 264GB/s
    Volcanic Islands 2013 28nm Hawaii R9 290X 6.2 4GB GDDR5 320GB/s
    Pirate/Caribbean Islands 2015 28nm Fiji R9 Fury X 8.9 4GB HBM1 512GB/s
    Arctic Islands 2016 14nm Greenland ? 15-18 32/16GB HBM2 1TB/s



    Noticia:
    http://wccftech.com/amd-greenland-14nm-production-q2-2016/#ixzz3uzBz7Qjg


    Pela noticia, só no final do proximo Verão (10 meses de espera sensivelmente), é que vamos ver algo novo da AMD!!!
    Ou a AMD com o atraso que vai ter novamente para a nVidia, tira algo realmente inovador, melhor e mais barato que a nVidia, ou arricamo-nos a ver novamente o filme que temos assistido ao longo deste ultimo ano e alguns meses.

    Na minha opinião e com a nova abertura do Radeon Group, penso que nos ultimos anos onde a AMD andou enfiada e com as ideias que o Radeon Group veio trazer, aliado a isso uma nova abertura na estrategia de comunicação, acho que a AMD tem nesta altura provavelmente a maior crença que pode dar a volta por cima e daquilo que eu tenho lido sobre o assunto, eu também acredito que nesta altura as coisas podem mudar e colocar novamente a AMD mais competitiva com os seus concorrentes.


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    A AMD só tem uma hipotese...cortar preços...mas guess what...a gráfica que podia cair que nem uma bomba ali nos 280-300€, só está disponível na China...

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    Nao era um rebrand que ia tirar a AMD do buraco nesta altura, tendo a nVidia margem de sobra para igualar ou ate baixar o preço do rebrand com GTX 970 deixando novamente a AMD enfiada no buraco, nem mesmo com o problema da GTX 970 e a mentira da nVidia, a AMD soube aproveitar na devida altura, limitou-se a mandar uns twets e um video do fixer!!!!
    Um dos principais problemas da AMD é mesmo esse, nestes ultimos anos limitou-se a dar REBRANDS.
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    [UPDATED] AMD Greenland GPU Coming Next Summer On 14nm – To Enter Mass Production In Q2 2016


    [UPDATE#1 10:32 AM ET December 22 2015] South Korea’s Electronic Times and Reuters both have picked up this story since yesterday and it no longer appears to be strictly a rumor.
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    [UPDATE#2 10:57 AM ET December 22 2015]
    We reached out to AMD and received the following comment.
    As a matter of policy we don’t comment on rumor or speculation. At this time we have not disclosed the foundry partner for our forthcoming FinFET products. In early November, we announced with GLOBALFOUNDRIES we have taped out multiple products using GLOBALFOUNDRIES’ 14nm Low Power Plus (14LPP) process technology and we are currently conducting validation work on 14LPP production samples.
    Our original article as it was published at 01:34 PM ET on December 21 2015 can be found below.


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    Rumor: Samsung to produce Greenland GPUs, Zen CPUs for AMD next year

    An industry insider has indicated to the Korea Electronic Times that Samsung will be mass producing Greenland graphics chips for AMD starting in the second quarter of 2016. This follows the recent news GlobalFoundries will be producing for AMD, so it has two partners on its hands as of now.


    Word is AMD will be "fluidly regulating" how many chips are produced by each company based upon yield and other factors.

    It's said Greenland, which is based on the 14nm FinFET process technology, is twice as efficient as the 28nm Fiji. It's also said that shortly after Greenland begins production, Zen production will begin, and will also see production split amongst Samsung and GlobalFoundries facilities.

    The same source has indicated Samsung is readying its 10nm process technology for 2017.

    Noticia:
    http://www.tweaktown.com/news/49154/...ear/index.html


    Será para evitar atrasos ainda maiores, ou será para antecipar alguma coisa?
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    Citação Post Original de Jorge-Vieira Ver Post
    Rumor: Samsung to produce Greenland GPUs, Zen CPUs for AMD next year




    Noticia:
    http://www.tweaktown.com/news/49154/...ear/index.html


    Será para evitar atrasos ainda maiores, ou será para antecipar alguma coisa?
    Boas!
    Continuo a achar que a Samsung seria o dono perfeito da AMD...
    Têm tudo... Guito, tech, fábricas e Engenheiros...



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    Cooling: Arctic Cooling 3x F14 Silent - CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling: Liquid Freezer 360 (6xF12 Fans) - Storage: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 1 TB - PSU: EVGA G3 750W - Monitor: ACER XB270HU 1440p @ 144hz G-Sync

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    Para continuarem atrasados na vidinha deles, mais valia passarem o testemunho à Samsung...
    Devido à falta de espaço na assinatura, resolvi colocar em "Acerca de mim" os meus projectos]
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    O unico problema é a Samsung não ser uma empresa sediada nos States e, isso implica uma boa dose de paciencia e carga de trabalhos para quem quiser comprar a AMD. Uma solução seria vender só o Radeon Group e aí as coisas simplificavam um pouco mais.
    No meu entender, a Samsung era o comprador ideal para a AMD ou para o Radeon Group.
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    AMD Officially Confirms, R9 Fury X2 Delayed To 2016 To Better Align It With The Virtual Reality Market

    AMD officially confirmed today that its dual Fiji “Gemini” Fury X2 card, has been delayed to 2016 to align it with major VR HMD launches next year. AMD originally debuted its dual Fiji board back in June at E3, along with all of its Fiji products the Fury X, Fury and Nano.

    At E3 AMD announced that its dual Fiji board would launch sometime in the Autumn of 2015 ahead of the holiday season, however this has not happened and the company shed some light on the matter via earlier today via an email to our friend Damien from Hardware.fr.
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    Q. On the E3 Livecast, Lisa committed to shipping Fiji Gemini by Xmas. What happened? Is Fiji Gemini delayed?

    A. The product schedule for Fiji Gemini had initially been aligned with consumer HMD availability, which had been scheduled for Q415 back in June. Due to some delays in overall VR ecosystem readiness, HMDs are now expected to be available to consumers by early Q216. To ensure the optimal VR experience, we’re adjusting the Fiji Gemini launch schedule to better align with the market.
    Working samples of Fiji Gemini have shipped to a variety of B2B customers in Q415, and initial customer reaction has been very positive.
    AMD “Gemini” Fury X2 Samples Delivered, Product Launch Set To Coincide With Major VR Head Mounted Display Launches Next year

    The official product name for the dual Fiji XT board code named “Gemini” is still unknown, so we’ll be using the “Fury X2” designation to refer to the card in the time being. While the card has been officially delayed to 2016, some figures in the upper echelon of the game development world such as Johann Andersson, chief architect behind the Frostbite engine, have already received a pre-release sample of the new card to play with as we had reported three weeks ago.

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    We had published an exclusive report last month in which our sources have told us that there have been multiple engineering samples of the card in circulation for a while, a fact that AMD has officially confirmed today. The specifications for the card have been finalized sometime ago, which we’ve shared in an exclusive earlier this month. The R9 Fury X2 will be the fourth and last Fiji based graphics card from AMD before the release of AMD’s next generation 14nm / 16nm Arctic Islands family.

    WCCFTech AMD Radeon R9 Fury X2 AMD Radeon R9 Fury X AMD Radeon R9 Nano AMD Radeon R9 Fury AMD Radeon R9 290X
    GPU Fiji XT x 2 Fiji XT Fiji XT Fiji Pro Hawaii XT
    Stream Processors 8192 4096 4096 3584 2816
    GCN Compute Units 128 64 64 56 44
    Render Output Units 128 64 64 64 64
    Texture Mapping Units 512 256 256 224 176
    GPU Frequency Up to 1000 Mhz Up to 1050Mhz Up to 1000 MHz Up to 1000 MHz 1000Mhz
    Memory 8GB HBM (4 GB Per GPU) 4GB HBM 4GB HBM 4GB HBM 4GB GDDR5
    Memory Interface 8192bit (4096 Per GPU) 4096bit 4096bit 4096bit 512bit
    Memory Frequency 500Mhz 500Mhz 500 MHz 500Mhz 1250Mhz
    Effective Memory Speed 1Gbps 1Gbps 1Gbps 1Gbps 5Gbps
    Memory Bandwidth 1 Terabyte/s 512GB/s 512GB/s 512GB/s 320GB/s
    Cooling Liquid Liquid, 120mm Radiator Air, Single Fan/Custom AIB Solutions Air, Custom AIB Solutions Air, Single Blower Fan
    Performance (FP32) 16.38 TFLOPS 8.6 TFLOPS 8.19 TFLOPS 7.2 TFLOPS 5.6 TFLOPS
    TDP ~375W 275W 175W 275W 250W
    GFLOPS/Watt ~43.7 31.3 47.1 26.2 19.3
    Launch Price TBA $649 $649 $549 $549
    Launch Date 2016 24th June 2015 7th September 2015 10th July 2015 24th October 2013


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    Who cares? As X2, tal como as Titan xpto sempre foram para encher chouriços e medir pilinhas nos benchs por umas semanas/meses. Raramente há stocks dessa treta, raramente há quem as compre e nunca tardam muito a ficar EOL. What else is new...

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    duvido que o pascal vá logo ter a performance de uma fury x2 , como sempre vão começar por baixo para rentabilizar e aproveitar que os yelds são baixos, duvido que antes do 2 semestre tenha-mos algo ao nivel de uma 980ti
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    duvido que o pascal vá logo ter a performance de uma fury x2 , como sempre vão começar por baixo para rentabilizar e aproveitar que os yelds são baixos, duvido que antes do 2 semestre tenha-mos algo ao nivel de uma 980ti
    Tal e qual. Quando saiu a série 900, tambem não tivemos logo algo que batesse claramente as 780ti. (960 2gb, 960 4gb e 970...)
    Devido à falta de espaço na assinatura, resolvi colocar em "Acerca de mim" os meus projectos]
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    Quando saiu a serie GTX 900 da nVidia (sem entrar aqui a GTX 750TI], Setembro de 2014, a nvidia começou logo pelos topos, GTX 980 e GTX 970, deixando para Janeiro deste ano a GTX 960 e por fim uma ou duas semanas antes da Fury X ser lançada, lançaram a GTX 980TI.
    Em Março deste ano, foi lançada a Titan X.

    Por isso é muito provavel que repitam a formula agora.
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    Master Business & GPU Man Avatar de Enzo
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    Ainda há quem diga que os topos das 780ti (Ghz, Lightning, KingPin), apanham muitas 980 reference e de "média gama". Acho que o salto definitivo foi mesmo a 980ti/Titan
    Devido à falta de espaço na assinatura, resolvi colocar em "Acerca de mim" os meus projectos]
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