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    O facto de ser um chip universal, tende a beneficiar quem tem a sua vermelhinha lá parada, a funcionar com algo mais modesto ou mesmo com os topos de gama, ou seja, todos. Abranger todos, é uma excelente jogada dos red, ao contrário da Intel que cria sockets novos por tudo e por nada.
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    Não é nada de novo na AMD, a AMD no seu historial teve imensos processdores compatíveis com apenas um socket e acho que é sempre o melhor para o consumidor, dá mais possibilidades de upgrade sem ter de gastar imenso guito numa plataforma nova.
    Por isso acho que apenas um socket para a proxima geração da AMD é uma boa aposta.
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    Zen not arriving until the end of the Year



    And only at the high end
    While AMD fanboys expect Zen to arrive and cause Intel to immediately surrender its stonking market lead, it seems that it will not be saving the company’s bacon until next year.

    Lisa Su, CEO of AMD said that the chip maker is in conversations with PC makers to use Zen-based chips, code-named Summit Ridge. The plan, as she sees it is that the Zen processor architecture will first come to high-end desktops like gaming PCs at the end of this year.
    Early next year, Zen chips will be in servers. There's no word on when Zen would be introduced in laptops or PCs which belong to ordinary people.
    AMD wants people to combine Zen with its GPUs based on the Polaris architecture, which will ship mid-year which made many suspect that the CPU would be with us sooner rather than later.
    However on that road map, Zen will not make any serious inroads into Intel’s market share until 2017.
    AMD already offers FX chips with up to eight cores for gamers, and Summit Ridge will likely be sold under that brand. The desktop chips will have a high-core count and support the latest DDR4 memory, AMD has said.
    AMD needs to target its gaming and home builder desktop market which it started to lose when Intel started allowing its Core chips to be overclocked .
    Su said that the Summit Ridge chips would be a "re-entry" into the high-performance desktop market.
    A Zen-based CPU offers a performance uplift of 40 percent per cycle than Excavator CPU cores, which are in current chips code-named Carrizo, Su said.
    AMD's PC business has been performing poorly. Due to a decline in PC shipments, revenue for AMD's Computing and Graphics revenue -- which deals in PC and graphics chips -- declined to US$470 million in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2015 compared to $662 million in the same quarter a year ago.
    AMD reported a net loss of $79 million in the fourth quarter, compared to a profit of $18 million in the same quarter a year ago. The company reported revenue of $958 million, declining from $1.24 billion. So bascally AMD is signing up for a year of more misery before Zen arrives.
    Noticia:
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    Por este andar, quando chegar já não deve ser preciso...
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    AMD Expects 40%+ IPC Increase for Zen


    After many years of lagging CPU performance, AMD has suffered diminishing market and financial performance. This may change later this year as AMD comes back with their new Zen architecture that AMD originally expected to bring up to 40% IPC increase over their current lineup. According to AMD’s latest report, though, Zen may be performing better than their early estimates, with greater than 40% IPC increase over the current generation.
    AMD has long been confident that Zen would deliver on its performance gains. After all, the new architecture is reported to bring instruction set parity with Intel and a reworked and more balanced design. In fact, rumours about a Zen Apple chip have surfaced, which if true, is a strong endorsement for AMD. Zen will also revamp the ageing 9xx series chipset and bring DDR4 and other new technologies with AM4.
    While there is much to be optimistic, the biggest disappointment is that the rumour about an early 2016 release is wrong, with the originally suggested late 2016 launch being confirmed. This is despite the tape out having already been completed. The wording for the 40%+ IPC increase also suggests that the increase won’t be much greater than expected, otherwise, numbers like 45% or 50% would have been used. Hopefully, Zen will have what it takes to bring AMD back to the forefront and allow the company to continue with future releases and even stunning designs like this one.
    Noticia:
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    Estaremos cá para ver se realmente existe esse aumento, mesmo só chegando no final deste ano.
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    Não entendo porquê tanto tempo...
    E se fizermos as contas, 40% mais dá um 4790k
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    Boas!
    Quando sair o Zen, já vamos com mais um geração em cima por parte da Intel...

    Cumprimentos,

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    Case: Thermaltake Core V21 - Cooling: 5x Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S + 1xArctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - Storage: Samsung 840 Evo 1TB + WD SN520 NVMe 512GB - PSU: Corsair HX1200i

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    Se esses Intel virem para encher chouriços como tem sido até agora nada de grave para os lados da AMD, se esses Intel forem aquilo que foi prometido para os actuais Skylake... lá vai a AMD outra andar a correr atrás do prejuízo.
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    Master Business & GPU Man Avatar de Enzo
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    Bem...pelo menos os fanboys AMD sempre ficam com um material mais recente. Agora o tipo exigente, fica na Intel de certeza...
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    AMD Confirms: Zen Based Summit Ridge FX CPUs Launching at the End of 2016 – Bringing 40% IPC Improvement as Planned

    In their recent earnings call for the fiscal year 2015, AMD confirmed that their Zen based Summit Ridge FX CPUs will be launching in late 2016. The Zen core which has been under development by AMD for the past two years will be introduced in two brand new processor families, codenamed Summit Ridge and Bristol Ridge which will be aiming the high-performance and mainstream consumer markets.

    Updated AMD CPU Roadmap as of January 2016.
    AMD’s CEO Confirms Zen Based Summit Ridge CPUs Arriving In Late 2016

    The earnings call showed that AMD did better than previous month reducing the overall operating losses and clearing away inventory however the company still posted a revenue decline of 10% in Q4 2015 and 28% in FY (Fiscal Year) 2015. Talking about the future plans of their company, AMD’s CEO, Lisa Su, mentioned that their Zen based CPUs are well on their way to development and are aiming to achieve IPC leverage greater than 40% compared to their current generation Excavator cores found on the Carrizo processors. The Zen core will have a totally revised design, offering high core count, Simultaneous Multithreading Support (SMT), High-Bandwidth, Low Latency Cache and will be based on the FinFET process to allow better efficiency in client and enterprise platforms.












    In client computing our opportunities to regain share in 2016 will be driven by our design win momentum, continued progress expanding into the commercial market and reentering the high performance desktop market late in the year with our Zen based Summit Ridge CPU. Our second growth pillar is in the $15 billion plus datacenter and infrastructure markets, driven by our FirePro GPU’s and next-generation service CPU’s. Our Zen based CPU development is on track to achieve greater than 40% IPC uplift from our previous generation and we’re on schedule to sample later this year. AMD via SeekingAlpha
    AMD Summit Ridge Processors – Next Generation Zen Based FX CPU Family Aimed at Enthusiasts


    The Summit Ridge family is now officially confirmed by AMD in their latest roadmaps. The family will feature a range of processors based on the latest Zen core architecture. This core will be deployed in the high-end CPUs known as the FX Series. The Summit Ridge family is the official update to the Vishera family that was built upon the Piledriver core. Launched in 2012, the Vishera family replaced the Zambezi family which featured the AMD Bulldozer core architecture. After Piledriver, the FX series didn’t receive any update as AMD’s Steamroller and Excavator cores were aimed at the mainstream audience leaving the enthusiasts to stick to their older CPUs or move to Intel to feed their high-end needs.
    That is going to change in late 2016 as AMD is bringing the high-end back to enthusiasts in the form of Summit Ridge FX CPUs. In answering a question to one of the journalists during the earnings, Lisa stated that AMD will be working with several OEMs to bring Zen based PCs in the market later this year and have already closed in some design wins with the Zen processors while internally working with OEMs. Summit Ridge will be aiming the consumer DIY and OEM markets, feeding the needs high-performance needs of AMD fans. AMD has stated that Summit Ridge CPUs will mark their “re-entry” in the high-performance desktop market.
    Yes, so Hans, overall the Zen design win, we have been engaged very early on with you know large OEM and cloud providers on the Zen design point and the platforms that would be useful for Zen. So we have closed our first design win, we are working you know very closely with these OEM partners to make sure that they bring up their platforms concurrently with our own design validation and testing. I think the main message is we are on track with the schedule that we previously discussed in terms of sampling this year. We will introduce first in desktop and so we are having conversations with some of the PC OEMs about getting their platforms ready for desktop and then we will go into enterprise server first full year in 2017.
    We have secured several key design wins with global OEMs for our Zen based service CPU and believe we can rapidly reestablish our presence in the datacenter when we bring our new products to market in 2017. AMD via SeekingAlpha
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    The Summit Ridge FX CPUs family will be supported on the latest AM4 motherboards that will feature latest I/O compatibility and DDR4 memory support. The AM4 motherboards will be housing the latest Promontory PCH which will allow SATA Express/NVMe and USB 3.1 support.

    AMD Bristol Ridge Processors – Excavator and GCN 3.0 Powered APUs For The Mainstream Market

    The Bristol Ridge family will include the latest A-Series APUs and FX CPUs aimed at the desktop market. A quick glance at the technical features of both Carrizo and Bristol Ridge reveal no differences from both APU families. Both are based on a 3rd generation GCN architecture (GCN 1.2) which is the same version incorporated on the Fiji and Tonga GPUs. Both APU families have full support for DirectX 12, provide great audio, UVD, VCD, DCE features and support Dual Graphics, Panel Self Refresh, Dynamic Bezel Adjust along with the ability to run up to 3 simultaneous displays. Bristol Ridge APUs will feature up to four x86 Excavator cores with 2 MB of shared L2 cache. They will have support for HSA 1.0 and the latest DDR4 memory standard. The Excavator core ensures better IPC (Instruction per clock) versus previous generation cores.

    Previously, AMD have priced their desktop APUs under the $200 range and it is expected to remain there. As for AM4 boards, it is highly likely that AMD will have a few budget options launched for Bristol Ridge APUs while the more performance focused parts will be set for launch with the FX series in Q4 2016.
    AMD Bristol Ridge Desktop (AM4) APUs:

    The Bristol Ridge AM4 APU family will contain 8 SKUs, there’s no name defined for them but they will be using a new branding scheme, most probably A-Series 9000 as was revealed in a previous leak. There are seven SKUs that are based on a quad core design while one chip retains a dual core design. Clock speeds range from 2.5 to 3.6 GHz base and 2.8 to 4.0 GHz boost clocks across the processors listed. The graphics chips which will range from 256/384/512 stream processors (Radeon R7/R5/R3) will come with clock speeds ranging from 900 to 948 MHz. All chips will support DDR4 memory clocked at 2400 MHz (native speeds). Surprisngly, there are also few models without the graphics units which means they will either be Athlon or FX branded chips. The TDPs will be adjusted from 35 to 65W. More details can be seen in the table below:
    AMD Bristol Ridge Desktop AM4 SKUs:

    SKU Cores Base/Boost Clock L2 $ GPU CUs GPU SPs GPU Clock Memory TDP/cTDP
    TBD 4 3.6/4.0 GHz 2 MB 8 CUs 512 SPs 948 MHz DDR4-2400 65W/45W
    TBD 4 3.1/3.5 GHz 2 MB 8 CUs 512 SPs 900 MHz DDR4-2400 35W
    TBD 4 3.4/3.8 GHz 2 MB 6 CUs 384 SPs 948 MHz DDR4-2400 65W/45W
    TBD 4 3.0/3.2 GHz 2 MB 6 CUs 384 SPs 900 MHz DDR4-2400 35W
    TBD 4 3.4/3.8 GHz 2 MB N/A N/A N/A DDR4-2400 65W/45W
    TBD 4 3.0/3.2 GHz 2 MB N/A N/A N/A DDR4-2400 35W
    TBD 4 2.5/2.8 GHz 2 MB N/A N/A N/A DDR4-2400 35W
    TBD 2 2.5/2.8 GHz 2 MB 4 CUs 256 SPs 900 MHz DDR4-2400 65W/45W
    AMD’s Next Generation Zen Powered Opteron CPUs Aiming At The 2017 Release Window – Expected To Address 80% of Server Market



    AMD also wants to establish their foots back in the server market which has long seen no action from the chip maker. With Zen, AMD will be launching new Opteron chips sometime in 2017 with huge amount of cores and several technologies such as HBM2, DDR4 DRAMs and coherent interconnects to meet demands of the server and datacenter markets. In a question asked on the performance of AMD’s upcoming Opteron processors, the company assured that they expect Zen powered chips will be capable enough to address the demands of 80% of the server market.
    Okay and then as a follow up, what kind of performance point should we look at your initial Zen in the server space, is it Xeon E3 class type products or E5s or maybe you can help with some granularity there if you can?
    Yes, we believe that we’ll be able to address let’s call it you know 80% of the server CPU market with our Zen class of products. So that’s a very high end but you know really the meat of the market. AMD via SeekingAlpha
    Both 2016 and 2017 will be crucial years for AMD as they launch some of their most anticipated products in the consumer and enterprise markets.
    AMD Summit Ridge and Bristol Ridge Platforms:

    Bristol Ridge and Summit Ridge Platforms

    WCCFTech AMD Summit Ridge AMD Bristol Ridge AMD FX "8000 Series" AMD A-Series "7000/8000-Series"
    Product Segment Performance Desktop Processors "FX" Mainstream Desktop and Mobility APU Performance Desktop Processors "FX" Mainstream Processors "Kaveri/Godavari"
    Product Architecture x86 Zen x86 Excavator x86 Bulldozer/Piledriver x86 Steamroller
    Process Node 14nm 28nm 32nm 28nm
    Max CPU Cores 8 4 8 4
    GPU Architecture None Next Gen GCN None Sea Islands GCN
    TDP 95W 95W 125-220W 95W
    Socket AM4 AM4/FP4 AM3+ FM2+
    South Bridge Promontory Promontory/SOC SB950 A78/A88X
    North Bridge On-die On-die 990FX Board
    Memory Support DDR4 DDR3/DDR4 DDR3 DDR3
    Launch Q4 2016 1H 2016 2011-2014 2013-2015


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    Nem sei se estão pior colocados para o lado das gráficas ou dos processadores. Estou curioso para saber o que significa aquele "1" e aquele "2"
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    Provavelmente o "1" seja a frequencia maxima em modo Turbo e o "2" seja talvez algo acima de 8 cores, isto se olharmos apenas para os FX 83XX, onde são os CPUs do mercado com mais cores disponíveis para o mercado caseiro, logo aquele "2" pode significar que vem algo acima de 8 cores ou se for em relação aos APUs, algo acima de 4 cores, dado que as comparações que a AMD está a colocar cá fora é com os APUs Carrizo e não com os anteriores FX (core Buldozzer), o que também não deixa de ser estranho.
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    Provavelmente o "1" seja a frequencia maxima em modo Turbo e o "2" seja talvez algo acima de 8 cores, isto se olharmos apenas para os FX 83XX, onde são os CPUs do mercado com mais cores disponíveis para o mercado caseiro, logo aquele "2" pode significar que vem algo acima de 8 cores ou se for em relação aos APUs, algo acima de 4 cores, dado que as comparações que a AMD está a colocar cá fora é com os APUs Carrizo e não com os anteriores FX (core Buldozzer), o que também não deixa de ser estranho.
    Pois...só se estiverem a comparar AMD com AMD. Senão, quando saísse o 10 core da Intel, teriam de fazer "edit" à imagem.
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    Sim, as comparações são sempre feitas com os da AMD e mesmo se fossem comparar com os Intel, iam sempre para os i5 ou i7 (quad-cores) de consumo caseiro, nunca iam comparar com outras plataformas mais exoticas da Intel.
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    Samsung Begins Mass Production Of the 14nm LPP Process – AMD x86 Zen Processors On Schedule for Late 2016 Launch

    The Samsung/GlobalFoundries 14nm LPP process with FinFETs is a very important node for PC enthusiasts – because everything so far points to it being the host process for the upcoming Zen processors. It would appear that progress on the node is being made on-schedule since a report by Benchlife.info confirms that Samsung has started the ramp to mass production on its 14nm LPP node. As many of you would undoubtedly know, the 14LPP node, unlike the 14LPE node, can be used to fabricate high performance ASICs with even lower power requirements.

    Mass production of Samsung / GlobalFoundries 14nm LPP process begins on schedule

    A few weeks ago, we reported that the ramp to 14nm FinFETs is going on schedule and the jump to volume production will happen sometime in early 2016. The volume ramp indicates that the process has become reasonably mature and yields have reached appropriate levels. This also means that the floor is now open to process orders from the market. Of course, keep in mind that early priority on any given node is usually given to mobile processors, so usually, the fact that Samsung has started mass production of 14LPP does not necessarily equate to it being an indication of mass production of AMD products.

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    That said, Samsung had already rolled out the 14nm LPE or Low-Power Early node for mobile devices which has a better time to market, so it can be safely be said that mass production of AMD products will start very soon – if it hasn’t already. 8 months is the approximate time it takes for a product to hit the shelves after going into mass production on the factory floor – so this perfectly coincides with Zen’s schedule, which is all set to appear in late 2016. I would also like to point out here that AMD has yet to officially declare a fab partner for the production of Zen, although everything (including a footnote in an AMD press deck) points to it being the 14 LPP Samsung/GlobalFoundries process.
    Samsung/GlobalFoundries 14nm FinFET Technology

    Our 14nm FinFET ramp is exceeding plan with best-in-class yield and defect density. The early-access version of the technology (14LPE) was qualified in January and is well on its way to volume production, meeting yield targets on lead customer products. The performance-enhanced version of the technology (14LPP) is set for qualification in the second half of 2015, with the volume ramp beginning in early 2016. Prototyping on test vehicles has demonstrated excellent logic and SRAM yields and performance at near 100% of target.
    A little recap for our readers who are still confused about the entire Samsung/GlobalFoundries affair: Samsung, GlobalFoundries and IBM have maintained for many year what they called the “Common Platform” which involved sharing R&D. This time around, Samsung has went one step further, and exclusively with GloFo I might add (IBM was not mentioned), with an approach called Copy-Smartly. If you think this sounds familiar – you would be right. Copy-Smartly follows the same ideology behind Intel’s Copy Exactly (but not to the same level of duplication) and involves GloFo synchronizing its recipe, tool and process at its own foundries. In simple words, a 14nm LPP ramp at Samsung can be taken as a successful 14nm LPP ramp at GlobalFoundries.


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    AMD’s Zen man switches to Tesla



    Jim Keller finds a new role
    The bloke who helped create the chip which will either finish AMD or give it a renaissance has a new role working for Tesla. Ironically it really will involve him working on Nvidia gear.

    Jim Keller was the lead brains behind the Zen chip and raised a few eyebrows when he cleaned out his desk before seeing the chip into the shops.
    Now all has become clear as Keller has been revealed as Tesla’s new Vice President of Autopilot Hardware Engineering. Tesla today confirmed the news and sent us the following statement:
    Jim Keller is joining Tesla as Vice President of Autopilot Hardware Engineering. Jim will bring together the best internal and external hardware technologies to develop the safest, most advanced autopilot systems in the world.
    Before he moved to AMD Keller was a director in the platform architecture group at Apple focusing on mobile products. And made several generations of A4 and A5 mobile processors. Before that he was vice president of design for P.A. Semi which was bought by Jobs’ Mob in 2008.
    His new job is not to work on in-house microprocessors, although the company needs plenty of processing power for its ‘Autopilot’ programme. Tesla’s centre stack is currently powered by Nvidia ARM CPUs.
    Last year, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that the automaker was looking for “hardcore” engineers for its Autopilot team. In the few months since the release of the system via a software update last October, Tesla lost quite a few Autopilot engineers to other companies, including drone maker Skydio, aftermarket drive assist firm Cruise and Google.
    Noticia:
    http://www.fudzilla.com/news/process...tches-to-tesla


    Acabou o segredom já se sabe para onde foi o criador do Zen e ironicamente é mais um a ir trabalhar para a nVidia, embora este através de outra empresa.
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