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    Tech Ubër-Dominus Avatar de Jorge-Vieira
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    Sony Reportedly Making A 4K Gaming Capable Playstation 4 – PS4.5 Brings Upgraded Graphics & CPU Horsepower


    If Sony is working on a new Playstation 4 console that can actually support to play games at 4K, then the Japanese tech giant will be another step closer to taking the lead against Microsoft’s Xbox One. Not long ago, it was reported that the company’s gaming console beat its closest rival by being the bestselling hardware platform during the month of February in the United States.

    Rumored Sony Gaming Console To Feature Sufficient Graphics Horsepower For 4K Gaming – Dubbed An Odd Model Name Though

    The latest info from unnamed ‘developer sources’ state that Sony has started working on an upgraded version of its PlayStation 4 gaming console. The upcoming model is not expected to be the successor, which has been named PlayStation 5, but according to the source, the upcoming product is going to possess a rather unusual name; PS4.5.
    It is expected that the upcoming model is going to be able to support games on the granddaddy of all resolutions, suggesting that it will possess more graphical horsepower compared to the regular version of the console. However, the sources were extremely cutthroat because they did not care to mention any sort of hardware present inside the product that would be able to render frames at such a high resolution. Looking at current generation gaming titles, we would conclude that you do need a desktop class GPU to render a decent amount of frames on 4K, which brings us to the conclusion, will PS4.5 have a desktop GPU die incorporated inside?

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    If so, it is also possible that Sony increases the overall size and bulk of the chassis, since a lot of heat is going to be generated from inside the machine, requiring adequate airflow and space to properly dissipate it. The improved GPU in the new console will also help it enhance the games supported by the PlayStation VR headset which is expected to launch this fall. This move will obviously enable Sony to get better traction with products like the more expensive Oculus Rift and HTC Vive headsets. Both of these require PCs sporting impressive hardware to give out a respectable number of frames.
    READ PlayStation Network Down in Several Countries With Sluggish Download Speeds

    Right now, Sony’s PS4 can output 4K resolution for videos and photos, but maxes out at 1080p in terms of resolutions supported for actual gameplay. In addition to supporting a huge bump in resolution, the rumored PS4.5 will also allow developers to make use of the better performing GPU to produce richer textures and what not.

    Keep in mind that while this is just a rumor, we have to wonder that with the timing of Sony’s VR products, it does seem like a possibility, but what is going to be the price tag of the console, if such a product does become possible? You can bet it will not cost the same retail price of $399.99 like the original PS4 was stamped with, but we want to know your thoughts on the matter, so let us know as soon as possible.
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    Sony reportedly looking to refresh the PlayStation 4.5 for 4K gaming


    There seems to be some substantial information regarding a minor (or fairly major) refresh of Sony's PlayStation 4. In fact, some developers have reportedly told
    Kotaku that there have been actual discussions behind closed doors about a "PlayStation 4.5" that could include a more powerful GPU for actual 4K gaming.

    More than three independent sources in the developer community seem to have been able to confirm the existence of some type of evolution in hardware and design. This information seems to be even more substantiated after a supposed behind-closed-doors meeting from Sony at GDC. And just what does it mean for current owners?

    Well, it would be the anti-thesis of what makes a console such a valuable ecosystem. The hardware is similar for a full generation of development, meaning no one has to upgrade to experience their games at the greatest possible settings for that platform. Having different versions, even if one is discontinued, defeats the purpose of the fixed-specification console. This is even in line with Microsoft's want to have upgradable console hardware in the future. The console as we know it, then, might be doomed. Or we could be looking at the definitive next generation, earlier than usual.


    This oddly comes at a time when AMD's Polaris and even Zen are very close to release. Polaris is offering far better performance for a fraction of the power budget of the Jaguar based APU already in the console, and with the upcoming Zen and Polaris married APU's, we might see a new custom design shuffled into the mix. Imagination Technologies is also chasing the dream of better graphics at less power with their Wizard ray tracing architecture. They even told me that they could scale the Rogue GPU tied to it up into the multi GFLOPS range with the ray tracing chip capable of billions of rays per second, perfect performance for a console chasing the 4K graphics dream. Though that might be a bit of a stretch.

    But if there is a new PS4(.5), then it hopefully will upgrade the hardware to be competitive right now, instead of already being obsolete once released. Even though old hardware, it was able to keep up quite nicely with fairly nice looking games. Stay tuned.





    Noticia:
    http://www.tweaktown.com/news/51143/...ing/index.html


    Fica aqui o topico para falar deste upgrade à PS4 com a noticia que tinha saído ontem no TweakTown e o meu comentário.

    Se vão remodelar a PS 4, ao menos que o façam com um APU da AMD mais poderoso e de preferencia que já traga o Polaris embutido. Outra alternativa (talvez mais cara) seria equipar a PS 4 com um CPU ZEN e um GPU Polaris no minimo com capacidade suficiente para aguentar uns anos sem grandes problemas e não vir já obsoleto como aconteceu com esta geração de consolas.
    Este refresh pode também significar ainda um maior distanciamento para a consola da M$ que como é sabido é bem mais fraca que a PS 4 e a tareia pode tornar-se ainda mais monumental a favor da Sony.

    Esta nova c consola também pode significar uma melçhoria substancial nos jogos de PC, isto se a M$ seguir o mesmo caminho de remodelar a sua consola pelo menos com um desempenho igual ou parecido ao desta "nova "PS 4", caso contrario o PC vai ser novamente colocado em marcha atrás, dado os jogos serem feitos pelo menor denominadoe comum, a X1, quando deveria acontecer exatamente o contrário, dado o PC neste momento ser a maquina mais rentável e poderosa a nível de jogos, por isso aguarda-se com alguma expectativa aquilo que m$ irá fazer para não continuar a perder terreno nesta luta que está perdida praticamente desde o primeiro dia nesta geração de consolas.

    Última edição de Jorge-Vieira : 19-03-16 às 09:46
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    Tech Ubër-Dominus Avatar de Jorge-Vieira
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    Eurogamer Confirms PlayStation 4.5 Rumor, Referred to as PlayStation 4K



    A few days ago, we reported Kotaku’s rumor of a PlayStation 4.5 being planned by Sony Computer Entertainment. Today, Eurogamer confirmed independently that Sony’s R&D labs have prototype devices of this PlayStation 4.5, which has been referred to by more than one source as PlayStation 4K.
    This upgraded console would be more than likely be based on the new 14/16nm microprocessor manufacturing technology. Eurogamer presented three different scenarios, from the one featuring the most powerful (and expensive) PlayStation 4.5 to the cheapest possible upgrade.
    #1 Scenario – Polaris
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    • An APU with a higher-end Polaris would push graphics on – a 2x performance boost in GPU power compared to PS4 is achievable in a console form-factor. Possibly more – we really need to see the desktop PC equivalent parts first.
    • By default, Polaris has support for 4K, HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2 and HDR.
    • Console would not be cheap owing to the size of the processor – conceivably on par with PS4’s £359/$399 launch price.
    • Possibly higher depending on how much Sony pushes the boat out in terms of processor size and memory allocation.
    • This PS4K could co-exist with a cheaper ‘PS4 Slim’ based on the older APU, again using 14nm/16nm technology.

    #2 Scenario – From Pitcairn to Tahiti

    • We’d see a new PlayStation playing host to the same titles as the current one, but with visual improvements.
    • Conceivably, older games may run more smoothly by default, or could be patched to access the newer hardware.
    • Resolution could be pushed beyond 1080p and could look good on a 4K screen, but native UHD visuals for triple-A titles are off the table.
    • Wouldn’t be as expensive as the first option.
    • State-of-the-art 4K media support, but harder to sell to all but the most hardcore gamers.

    READ PlayStation Flow - Take a Dive into Gaming

    #3 Scenario – Just minor enhancements

    • Full compatibility with 4K screens, including next-gen media.
    • Complete ‘no worries’ compatibility with existing PlayStation 4 library.
    • HDR support for gaming on 4K displays – even if gaming resolution remains at 1080p.
    • Opportunity to lower cost as 14/16nm chips become cheaper.
    • Unlikely to alienate the existing userbase – any performance upgrade would be more ‘nice to have’ as opposed to essential.

    The PlayStation 4.5 would likely debut next year, but it could certainly be showcased during E3 or Gamescom 2016. With Microsoft already planning an enhanced Xbox One, this seems like the logical step for Sony to remain ahead in terms of performance among consoles. The question is, though, how much would you be interested in it as a consumer? Let us know via the poll and comments.



    Noticia:
    http://wccftech.com/eurogamer-confirms-playstation-45-rumor-referred-playstation-4k/#ixzz43qJSa19k









    Even more sources claim PlayStation 4.5 is real

    Another major source says that Sony's upgraded PlayStation 4.5 console is indeed real, adding even more credence to the validity of past reports.


    Eurogamer claims it knows for a fact that Sony's 4K PS4 refresh is happening. "We know PlayStation 4.5 is real," reads the headline of a new article, adding even more assurance on Sony's updated 4K PS4. While the website claims to know the PS4.5 is genuine, it doesn't know any key details about the hardware, and speculates on three different console configurations while tying in AMD's new Polaris GPU tech and 14nm FINFET chips.

    We've reported that Sony's PlayStation 4.5 could be powered by a custom new-generation AMD Zen APU, which would harness the power of AMD's Zen CPUs and Polaris graphics architecture baked into the 14nm FINFET node, which provides significant boosts across the board. With this tech under the hood, Sony's PS4.5 would be a competitor right out of the gate and provide native 4K gaming for years to come.

    Noticia:
    http://www.tweaktown.com/news/51251/...eal/index.html


    Última edição de Jorge-Vieira : 24-03-16 às 17:42
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    A xbox1 estava a ganhar terreno demais. Deve ter sido a soluçâo para a pôr no sitio...lá bem para trás...
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    Tech Ubër-Dominus Avatar de Jorge-Vieira
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    Citação Post Original de Enzo7231 Ver Post
    A xbox1 estava a ganhar terreno demais. Deve ter sido a soluçâo para a pôr no sitio...lá bem para trás...
    A sério... ninguém viu nada
    A X1 tem estado constantemente a perder...
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    Boa tarde,

    Não se preocupem que não perdem pela demora. A Microsoft deve aparecer com algo novo também. Não iam ficar especados a olhar. Não se esqueçam a mentalidade da Microsoft é vencer sempre. Uma coisa é darem um passo atrás (que para o fazerem é preciso muito mesmo) mas nunca desistem até chegarem ao seu objetivo. Se acham que aqui é exceção estão muito enganados.

    Cumprimentos.

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    Citação Post Original de Kyztic Ver Post
    Boa tarde,

    Não se preocupem que não perdem pela demora. A Microsoft deve aparecer com algo novo também. Não iam ficar especados a olhar. Não se esqueçam a mentalidade da Microsoft é vencer sempre. Uma coisa é darem um passo atrás (que para o fazerem é preciso muito mesmo) mas nunca desistem até chegarem ao seu objetivo. Se acham que aqui é exceção estão muito enganados.

    Cumprimentos.
    Não é por fazerem algo novo que vao passar à frente da Sony de certeza.


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    Boa tarde,

    Lançando algo novo o ciclo começa do 0.

    Cumprimentos.

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    Citação Post Original de Kyztic Ver Post
    Boa tarde,

    Lançando algo novo o ciclo começa do 0.

    Cumprimentos.
    Discordo, há muita gente que gostou da PS1 e percorreu todas as séries da Sony porque simplesmente gostou da PS1 e não sequer pensa em comprar uma Xbox e o markting da Sony é muito mas muito mais forte que o da MS.

    Pessoalmente tive PS e Xbox e antes de comprar qualquer uma teria de analisar qual seria a melhor escolha, mas conheço muita gente que não pensa assim, simplesmente vê sony ou simplesmente vê MS.

    Dai discordar que "novo ciclo" significa que tudo começa do 0.
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    Boa tarde,

    Se fossemos por aí a Xbox 360 tinha sido um fiasco porque saiu depois da PS2 que foi o maior sucesso da Sony e não aconteceu assim.

    Cumprimentos.

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    Citação Post Original de Kyztic Ver Post
    Boa tarde,

    Se fossemos por aí a Xbox 360 tinha sido um fiasco porque saiu depois da PS2 que foi o maior sucesso da Sony e não aconteceu assim.

    Cumprimentos.
    Tu não me percebeste, o que eu quero dizer é que a malta nem se quer pensa em aposta noutro fabricante de consolas, compra sempre as consolas daquele fabricante, sejam elas piores ou melhores.

    Chama-se a isto ser fanboy e há muitos, portanto, sair algo novo da MS não significa muito, ultimamente tem estado sempre por baixo.
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    Boa tarde,

    A parte horrível disto é que quando estas novas consolas saírem já o 4K é história e o 6K ou 8K anda aí a aparecer. Ainda não saíram do papel e já estão ultrapassadas.

    Cumprimentos.

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    Boas!
    Não te iludas...

    O 4k vai ser standard por muitos anos...

    Vai ser o full hd... espera pelo menos uma decada de suporte...
    Com a diferença que com 4x a resolução do HD, a qualidade de imagem vai ser sempre muito mais "limpa" de artefactos que com o 1080p...

    O 8K (resolução que substituirá o 4k), ainda está a vários anos de distancia (5 para começar a massificar-se)...

    Portanto o que vem por ai vai ser muito bom...

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    Boa tarde,

    O 4K ainda não começou a massificar-se para ser sincero. Mais 2 ou 3 anos para isso COMEÇAR.

    Cumprimentos.

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    Citação Post Original de Kyztic Ver Post
    Boa tarde,

    O 4K ainda não começou a massificar-se para ser sincero. Mais 2 ou 3 anos para isso COMEÇAR.

    Cumprimentos.
    Boas!
    Não andas atento...

    TV´s 4k a menos de 500€!! O Full HD vai indo para o lixo...

    Para mim a proxima compra é 4k HDR OLED...

    Cumprimentos,

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    Boa tarde,

    Mas a larga maioria das vendas ainda são 1080p. Na FNAC vi lá uma TV 4K já por 700 euros. Já começa a ser acessível. Mas por exemplo monitores para PC está quieto. A transição entre 720p e 1080p foi bem mais rápida.

    Cumprimentos.

 

 
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